How to install a HDD? - PSP-Forum.com

odhranus · 11-27-2006, 11:26 AM

OK, this has been bugging me for a while now, I have a PC at home with a small HDD in it and have bought a 60gb to go in it, I plug it in etc. and THINK I hae the master/slave switches right.
But when it comes to booting up, disk errors come up etc.

What I would like is to have the PC boot up as normal with the OS on the old HDD but also be able to access the 60gb one from windows, the PC detects the HDD in BIOS as it shows a disk with 58000mb (or whatever).

Can someone tell me how to do it? Should 2 HDD's be plugge into the same ribbon with 2 connectors on one end, or should I use a different slot and ribbon for the 2nd HDD? when I first opened her up, the HDD was on the same ribbon as a ZIP drive. (which i've taken out)

Pagnell · 11-27-2006, 11:36 AM

First off, you make no mention of the drive formats - SATA, ATA etc.

Assuming it's normal IDE, you need to ensure the drive that is currently in the system (with the OS on), keeps it's current master/slave and IDE channel settings so don't mess around with the ribbon cable connecting to that. So if you currently have a disk on the master of IDE 0 (primary) and a CD rom on the slave (secondary) of IDE 0 then you need to put the new disk on the master of IDE 1.

You should then be able to boot into Windows and format the second device.

odhranus · 11-27-2006, 11:42 AM

hmmm, what about if I have messed with everything already? they are IDE.

Which connector on the ribbon is master and which is slave? does it make a difference?

and what does "Cable Select" on the HDD switches mean?

bamhm182 · 11-27-2006, 11:46 AM

You should have them both hooked up on the same ribbon, have the old one set to master, the new one set to slave, than check everything is plugged in right and it should work. I remember once I was putting in a HDD and it was giving me that message EVERY time, it was because the IDE ribbon was BARELY unplugged, so push them all in just to make sure. I never really understood cable select...

Pagnell · 11-27-2006, 11:50 AM

Ignore cable select, it's not something PC's normally deal in. All you are concerned with is master/slave and ide channels.

If you look on your system board, you should see two ide channel sockets next to each other, normally labelled 'IDE 0' and 'IDE 1'. 'IDE 0' is the first one and 'IDE 1' is the second one. Each channel has a master and a slave device (or primary and secondary as they are listed as in the CMOS/Bios), meaning you can have up to four devices in a standard setup. 99% of the time, a PC (unless you build them yourself like me) will come with the OS disk attached to IDE 0, master so you need to ensure the jumper is set to master and it is connected to the ribbon cable attached to IDE channel 0. If you then have a CDrom attached to the same cable, you need to ensure it's jumper is set to slave or you will get a clash.

Do that first and see if it starts booting. To connect your additional drive, I suggest connecting it with a seperate ribbon cable to IDE 1, master.

odhranus · 11-27-2006, 11:54 AM

thanks, ill try tonight

11-27-2006, 11:26 AM	#1 (permalink)
odhranus PSP-Forum Demi-God Join Date: May 2006 Location: In a tent in a field in North Wales Posts: 3,178	How to install a HDD? OK, this has been bugging me for a while now, I have a PC at home with a small HDD in it and have bought a 60gb to go in it, I plug it in etc. and THINK I hae the master/slave switches right. But when it comes to booting up, disk errors come up etc. What I would like is to have the PC boot up as normal with the OS on the old HDD but also be able to access the 60gb one from windows, the PC detects the HDD in BIOS as it shows a disk with 58000mb (or whatever). Can someone tell me how to do it? Should 2 HDD's be plugge into the same ribbon with 2 connectors on one end, or should I use a different slot and ribbon for the 2nd HDD? when I first opened her up, the HDD was on the same ribbon as a ZIP drive. (which i've taken out) __________________ Currently in the pub.

11-27-2006, 11:36 AM	#2 (permalink)
Pagnell Administrator / Grim Reaper Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bedfordshire, England. Posts: 2,920	First off, you make no mention of the drive formats - SATA, ATA etc. Assuming it's normal IDE, you need to ensure the drive that is currently in the system (with the OS on), keeps it's current master/slave and IDE channel settings so don't mess around with the ribbon cable connecting to that. So if you currently have a disk on the master of IDE 0 (primary) and a CD rom on the slave (secondary) of IDE 0 then you need to put the new disk on the master of IDE 1. You should then be able to boot into Windows and format the second device. __________________ "Children are smarter than any of us. How do I know that? I don't know one child with a full time job and children." - Bill Hicks.

11-27-2006, 11:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
odhranus PSP-Forum Demi-God Join Date: May 2006 Location: In a tent in a field in North Wales Posts: 3,178	hmmm, what about if I have messed with everything already? they are IDE. Which connector on the ribbon is master and which is slave? does it make a difference? and what does "Cable Select" on the HDD switches mean? __________________ Currently in the pub.

11-27-2006, 11:46 AM	#4 (permalink)
bamhm182 The Moderationator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: United States, Colorado Posts: 4,937	You should have them both hooked up on the same ribbon, have the old one set to master, the new one set to slave, than check everything is plugged in right and it should work. I remember once I was putting in a HDD and it was giving me that message EVERY time, it was because the IDE ribbon was BARELY unplugged, so push them all in just to make sure. I never really understood cable select... __________________

11-27-2006, 11:50 AM	#5 (permalink)
Pagnell Administrator / Grim Reaper Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bedfordshire, England. Posts: 2,920	Ignore cable select, it's not something PC's normally deal in. All you are concerned with is master/slave and ide channels. If you look on your system board, you should see two ide channel sockets next to each other, normally labelled 'IDE 0' and 'IDE 1'. 'IDE 0' is the first one and 'IDE 1' is the second one. Each channel has a master and a slave device (or primary and secondary as they are listed as in the CMOS/Bios), meaning you can have up to four devices in a standard setup. 99% of the time, a PC (unless you build them yourself like me) will come with the OS disk attached to IDE 0, master so you need to ensure the jumper is set to master and it is connected to the ribbon cable attached to IDE channel 0. If you then have a CDrom attached to the same cable, you need to ensure it's jumper is set to slave or you will get a clash. Do that first and see if it starts booting. To connect your additional drive, I suggest connecting it with a seperate ribbon cable to IDE 1, master. __________________ "Children are smarter than any of us. How do I know that? I don't know one child with a full time job and children." - Bill Hicks.

11-27-2006, 11:54 AM	#6 (permalink)
odhranus PSP-Forum Demi-God Join Date: May 2006 Location: In a tent in a field in North Wales Posts: 3,178	thanks, ill try tonight __________________ Currently in the pub.

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