ISP's to come down heavy on filesharers - PSP-Forum.com

High Roller · 07-24-2008, 05:14 PM

its in the news today about ISP's finding out who is responsible for illegal file sharing and in particular the music industry has supported this move

UK ISP's reach anti-file-sharing deal - Digital Lifestyle - Macworld UK

It mentions as well that those suspected of file sharing "may have their download speeds throttled and may even get cut off all together" like what the hell???

Firstly, how?
Seeing as many P2P connections are obfuscated or encrypted, i'd really like to know how they gonna get the evidence together to support these claims.

If they do, expect a letter soon from one of the 6 ISP's.
Simple solution, dont choose one of these internet providers as yours

BT, Virgin, Orange, Tiscali, BSkyB and Carphone Warehouse....

And if they are and they start sending you dirty letters, time to switch
These are also the same providers that are gonna start jamming premium services and restricted access to the net down our throats anyway, so it makes sense to leave them to their "big plans for the net". cos they SUCK for choosing how the net should develop!

While stealing other people copyrighted materials is wrong and I dont condone it. These ISP's are killing the ethos of the net. If you walk into a library I don't expect to be told what books i can and cannot read, i'm not 6 years old!

As for the filesharing - theres new ways of sharing files coming through all the time, and many of the new ways like FTP servers which contain encypted archives. So i'd like them to beat that hahahahahaha. I win - This round

psplayer · 07-24-2008, 05:23 PM

Why Cant America or somewhere get this First. We get the good stuff last and the bad stuff first. How does that work?

Kernel Kev · 07-24-2008, 05:29 PM

LOL, they honestly might aswell give up on trying to restrict the internet. Its a global force, no ISP is gonna stop.

As High Roller said, they gotta get around encryption first. Just say it was home made holiday videos you was downloading...

Kev

psplayer · 07-24-2008, 05:37 PM

Yeah. But it still sucks

High Roller · 07-24-2008, 05:59 PM

They might just have to be seen as doing something proactive towards piracy, it doesnt have to be effective. The ISP's are gettin a massive increase on business from filesharing. they'd be stupid to ban it completely

Also, i dont know where the law stands on this, but i'm sure they encroach on some privacy issues here when they snooping on what ur doing on the net.

Bonkers, nanny net - not liking the way things are going

Kernel Kev · 07-24-2008, 06:03 PM

They simply have to change the contract stating that the details which are sent over their connections are freely available to view by them for these purposes. And no they dont need permission to edit your contract.

Like the "pay more for the big sites" thing, this also wont work, or a way around it will emerge.

Kev

Monkey Business · 07-24-2008, 06:06 PM

Tiscalli is who I'm with.

High Roller · 07-24-2008, 06:32 PM

These guys look pretty good. 22 quid for a static ip, or 18 quid without - and thats with 24 meg download

https://www.bethere.co.uk/broadband.do

Thought id post cos they not on the list

Sickening, i for one will not send my money to companies hell bent on changing the way the net works, so they can make more money

Screw virgin and all the others

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Berserk_Fury · 07-24-2008, 07:09 PM

Its really funny how the ISPs claim that they are against illegal file sharing, meanwhile the only thing they really care about is how to make it impossible for people to use the connections the way they claim it works. I've heard about this happening to some people here at the US with the cable companies. Basically if you actually max out your speed (with boost service it goes up to 30 mbps), and you use it that way for some extended time, you will start getting phone calls from the ISP asking you to stop using it so much.

Monkey Business · 07-24-2008, 07:20 PM

I occasionally get the letter telling me that I'm on the "Slow" bandwidth cos I'm using it too much lol.

07-24-2008, 05:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
High Roller Official Legend Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Derby. UK. Earth. Posts: 1,676	ISP's to come down heavy on filesharers its in the news today about ISP's finding out who is responsible for illegal file sharing and in particular the music industry has supported this move UK ISP's reach anti-file-sharing deal - Digital Lifestyle - Macworld UK It mentions as well that those suspected of file sharing "may have their download speeds throttled and may even get cut off all together" like what the hell??? Firstly, how? Seeing as many P2P connections are obfuscated or encrypted, i'd really like to know how they gonna get the evidence together to support these claims. If they do, expect a letter soon from one of the 6 ISP's. Simple solution, dont choose one of these internet providers as yours BT, Virgin, Orange, Tiscali, BSkyB and Carphone Warehouse.... And if they are and they start sending you dirty letters, time to switch These are also the same providers that are gonna start jamming premium services and restricted access to the net down our throats anyway, so it makes sense to leave them to their "big plans for the net". cos they SUCK for choosing how the net should develop! While stealing other people copyrighted materials is wrong and I dont condone it. These ISP's are killing the ethos of the net. If you walk into a library I don't expect to be told what books i can and cannot read, i'm not 6 years old! As for the filesharing - theres new ways of sharing files coming through all the time, and many of the new ways like FTP servers which contain encypted archives. So i'd like them to beat that hahahahahaha. I win - This round __________________ FAB!! Introduction guide - CUSTOM FIRMWARE & HOMEBREW Software for n00bs !!INFO

07-24-2008, 05:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
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Kernel Kev Admin / The One Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 5,663	LOL, they honestly might aswell give up on trying to restrict the internet. Its a global force, no ISP is gonna stop. As High Roller said, they gotta get around encryption first. Just say it was home made holiday videos you was downloading... Kev __________________ ALBUMS: My Vehicles My computer Rockingham TUTORIAL - Upgrade - Downgrade - Pandora's Battery - TUTORIAL

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07-24-2008, 05:59 PM	#5 (permalink)
High Roller Official Legend Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Derby. UK. Earth. Posts: 1,676	They might just have to be seen as doing something proactive towards piracy, it doesnt have to be effective. The ISP's are gettin a massive increase on business from filesharing. they'd be stupid to ban it completely Also, i dont know where the law stands on this, but i'm sure they encroach on some privacy issues here when they snooping on what ur doing on the net. Bonkers, nanny net - not liking the way things are going __________________ FAB!! Introduction guide - CUSTOM FIRMWARE & HOMEBREW Software for n00bs !!INFO

07-24-2008, 06:03 PM	#6 (permalink)
Kernel Kev Admin / The One Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 5,663	They simply have to change the contract stating that the details which are sent over their connections are freely available to view by them for these purposes. And no they dont need permission to edit your contract. Like the "pay more for the big sites" thing, this also wont work, or a way around it will emerge. Kev __________________ ALBUMS: My Vehicles My computer Rockingham TUTORIAL - Upgrade - Downgrade - Pandora's Battery - TUTORIAL

07-24-2008, 06:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
Monkey Business Moderation in HD Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 3,977	Tiscalli is who I'm with. __________________

07-24-2008, 07:09 PM	#9 (permalink)
Berserk_Fury PSP-Forum Veteran Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New York Posts: 1,031	Its really funny how the ISPs claim that they are against illegal file sharing, meanwhile the only thing they really care about is how to make it impossible for people to use the connections the way they claim it works. I've heard about this happening to some people here at the US with the cable companies. Basically if you actually max out your speed (with boost service it goes up to 30 mbps), and you use it that way for some extended time, you will start getting phone calls from the ISP asking you to stop using it so much. __________________

07-24-2008, 07:20 PM	#10 (permalink)
Monkey Business Moderation in HD Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 3,977	I occasionally get the letter telling me that I'm on the "Slow" bandwidth cos I'm using it too much lol. __________________

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