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Old 01-09-2007, 10:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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PS3 CPU & Hardware Information

The PS3 comes equipped with a 3.2 GHz Cell processor with one PowerPC "Power Processing Element" (PPE) and seven Synergistic Processing Elements (SPEs) clocked at 3.2 GHz a piece. This yields an effective 2.18 TFLOPS of processing power, which is twice as much as the XBOX 360. The main PowerPC PPE has 512 KB of L2 cache and one VMX (AltiVec) vector unit. Each of the seven SPEs is a RISC processor with 128-bit 128 SIMD GPRs with superscalar capibilities. Each SPE comes equipped with 256 KB of L1 cache/software-addressable 4.8 GHz SRAM, called the "Local Store".

Only seven SPEs are active; the eighth is redundant, to improve yield. If one of the eight has a manufacturing defect, it is disabled without rendering the entire unit defective. Additionally, one of the seven active SPEs is reserved for use by the system's OS, leaving six SPEs directly available to applications.

In order to cool these processing units, the PS3 heat sinks use heat pipes which allow the heat sinks to transfer heat quicker, and thus keep the components in the right tempature range.

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PS3 PROCESSING POWER: 2.18 TFLOPS
CPU: Cell Processor running at 3.2GHz
1 IBM PowerPC-based "Power Processing Element" (512 KB L2 cache and one VMX (AltiVec) vector unit)
512KB L2 cache
7 x Synergistic Processing Elements running at 3.2GHz (7 RISC processor with 128-bit 128 SIMD GPRs, each with 256 KB of L1 cache)
1 of 8 Synergistic Processing Elements reserved for redundancy

GPU
ATI RSX™ @500MHz w/ 256MB VRAM @650MHz
HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
1.8 TFLOPS floating point GPU processing

Memory
256MB XDR Main System DDR RAM
256MB GDDR3 VRAM

I/O
Detachable 2.5" Serial ATA either 20GB or 60GB
BD/DVD/CD Drive: BD-ROM 2x, DVD-ROM 8x, CD-ROM 24x, SACD 2x
SD standard/mini x 1
USB Front x 4, Rear x 2 (USB2.0)
CompactFlash (Type I, II) x 1
Memory Stick standard/Duo, PRO x 1

AV Output
Digital audio: DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1
HDMI out x 1 (HDMI NextGen)
Analog: AV MULTI OUT x 1
PS3 Screen resolution: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p

Sound
Dolby 5.1 channels, DTS, LPCM, etc.

Internet Connection
Ethernet 10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T
Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11 b/g
Bluetooth 2.0

Controller
Wireless Controller (Bluetooth w/ up to 7 controllers)
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Those specs are amazing...

BTW the part that interested me the most is the part that follows:

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The PS3 comes equipped with a 3.2 GHz Cell processor with one PowerPC "Power Processing Element" (PPE) and seven Synergistic Processing Elements (SPEs) clocked at 3.2 GHz a piece. This yields an effective 2.18 TFLOPS of processing power, which is twice as much as the XBOX 360.
It's so interesting because I'm always hearing people say the 360 is better than the PS3... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Old 01-10-2007, 08:18 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Oh god, how do i know that pagnell is going to have some kind of response to this. :lol:
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Old 01-10-2007, 08:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Oh god, how do i know that pagnell is going to have some kind of response to this. :lol:
I aim to please! :lol:

However, before I start here I want you to read the last paragraph of my reply. Done? Ok.

Brandishing speeds around means little as the two CPU's use completely different architecture. I don't expect Ryder to know this but I'm surprised the article he cut and pasted from didn't pick up on it.

I will give you a few examples. Would you say a 1.2Ghz Pentium 3 is as fast as a 1.2Ghz Sparc III? Of course it isn't. But wait there! It must be as they are the same speed! Let's take it further - would you say a 133mhz 486 is as fast as a 100mhz Pentium? Surely it must be faster as it has a higher number! No, it is slower because it is based upon different technology. My point is speed means jack sh*t as both the 360's CPU and PS3's CPU will have advantages and disadvantages depending on what you want it to do.

You seem fond on quotes Ryder, so I will do the same from an IGN article. You talk about processing power where I could talk about memory and memory bandwidth.

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The Xbox 360 has 278.4 GB/s of memory system bandwidth. The PS3 has less than one-fifth of Xbox 360's (48 GB/s) of total memory system bandwidth.
Then let's talk about graphics power.

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The Xbox 360 GPU has more processing power than the PS3's. In addition, its innovated features contribute to overall rendering performance. But even ignoring the bandwidth limitations, the PS3's GPU is not as powerful as the Xbox 360's GPU
Then we have an advantage in the CPU of the 360.

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The Xbox 360's CPU has more general purpose processing power because it has three general purpose cores, and Cell has just one.
But the PS3 has an advantage over the 360 on the CPU.

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The PS3 Cell's claimed advantage is on streaming floating point work which is done on its seven DSP processors.
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The Xbox 360 processor was designed to give game developers the power that they actually need, in an easy to use form. The Cell processor has impressive streaming floating-point power that is of limited use for games. The Cell's seven DSPs (what Sony calls SPEs) have no cache, no direct access to memory, no branch predictor, and a different instruction set from the PS3's main CPU. They are not designed for or efficient at general purpose computing. DSPs are not appropriate for game programming.
We could go on all day but I can see this turning into another PS3 v 360 flame thread and I don't really want that. I have never tried to tell anyone to get the 360 on the basis it is a more powerful console, it has purely been based on cost, the fact it currently has more games and the fact it is readily available. I also thought Sony couldn't be trusted because they have a track record of overpromising and underdelivering when it comes to features - and this has partly turned out to be true.

However, when it comes to hard power, there is very little difference between the two so which one you buy should be based on other factors.
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Old 01-10-2007, 09:11 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Oh I love all this PS3 vs. 360 banter, I cant decide between them, thats why I went for the Wii, just for cheat fun. (though I know now, the wii itself is cheap, but peripherals and games are where they make their money!)

End of the day both consoles are as good as each other, I have heard graphics are lighter on the 360, while the textures are better on the ps3, i have yet to play a ps3 yet so I'm not going to give any conclusion.
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wow that i a weird site ryder. When you click on control when it first loads, it looks like the twighlight zone. lol
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Holy s***! Freakin super computer here lol
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I will give you a few examples. Would you say a 1.2Ghz Pentium 3 is as fast as a 1.2Ghz Sparc III? Of course it isn't. But wait there! It must be as they are the same speed! Let's take it further - would you say a 133mhz 486 is as fast as a 100mhz Pentium? Surely it must be faster as it has a higher number! No, it is slower because it is based upon different technology. My point is speed means jack sh*t as both the 360's CPU and PS3's CPU will have advantages and disadvantages depending on what you want it to do.
Heres my example :lol:

Buggati veryron(its a car) has 1001 BHP (engine power) so does a formula 1 car. Yet the veyron is a 10ltr (or abouts) W16 (two V8's side by side) yet the F1 car is a 2 litre V8.

So most will look at that and say the F1 car hasnt a chance.

They are wrong, they have missed other factors such as weight, grip, downforce etc.

So my point is, although PS3 is better specs, if its not used properly then the slower will win.

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very good example there kevinorris, while the Wii is a superbike, it hasnt got a very big engine, but because it is so small and light, my oh my is it fun! :lol:
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Old 01-10-2007, 03:20 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I would say more a motorcross bike, superbikes are very fast indeed and dont think the wii can represent one.

A motorcross bike is severly slower yet just as (if not more) fun as a superbike.

Thanks, i love giving my own examples, makes me feel clever. :lol:
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Old 01-11-2007, 12:35 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Ok this is defanetly not how I wanted this thread to go to I was just posting the specs and a little quote I found amusing , that's all , not another 360 vs. PS3 thread ...and I was not laughing at the 360 in that original post ether ... :wink:
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