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Kernel Kev · 03-18-2008, 10:01 PM

So you are saying that "Its impossible" and "It cant be done" are different?

I must disagree to some extent on that one. And i see hacking the PS3 very doable indeed, as i said before, its been done with the 360 and im sure Microsoft done everything they could to prevent it, so i cant see Sony coming up with a bulletproof system if the biggest software company in the world cant do it.

This is one of those "time will tell" debates, and i for one am interested in what the results will be.

Kev

Ryder · 03-24-2008, 07:02 PM

It's not software that is blocking it Kev, it's both hardware and software. Sony put some piece of hardware that block's any and all access to th graphics chip if it isn't signed by Sony...

The Juggler · 03-25-2008, 11:42 AM

Speaking from a vantage point of experience I would say that nothing is impossible when it comes to any code... it can be VERY differcult but not impossible.

Ryder.... any system that reads media and then decides if the data on the media is valid or not is software driven not hardware.... and software can be cracked... hardware as in physically checking the disk is something different... but even then this is software driven unless it is totally mechanical and know physical piracy comes into play. Nothing is impossible just sometimes one has to compromise on the solution

Des

Ryder · 03-25-2008, 09:24 PM

Don't get me wrong, I know the PS3 will be hacked. But I'm just saying, Sony put a piece of hardware to block the RSX, even in Linux.

Kernel Kev · 03-26-2008, 10:17 PM

So is it not possible to create a program that is "signed by Sony", i mean if all the keys and security in place was cracked then it would be quite simple to fool a computer to think its genuine.

Look at the cracks on Vista / XP, it gets past microsofts vlidation techniques.

As for Hardware controlling access of software... all hardware is controlled by software so it is at the end of the day controlling the blocking process. Unless of course this "hardware you talk of is some minute electronic guard dog that bites the ankles of any trespasser or postman.

Unless you can explain exactly how this works then i will stick to my theory that the PS3 is just as hackable as the 360 or any other machine out there.

Kev

Ryder · 03-26-2008, 10:58 PM

IMO the PS3 is doing phenomenal compared to the 360 and Wii when we talk hacking. Will it be hacked later down the road? Hell yeah! But as for now, it proves better at keeping hackers out then what the 360 was capable of.

Constantine · 03-30-2008, 09:43 PM

That's a silly statement. I'm not that smart on PS3 hacking and whatnot, but the Wii isn't soft-modded, it has to have a chip installed. The 360 has mod chips out aswell.

Piracy isn't on the PS3 because a modchip isn't (right?)

Constantine

Ryder · 03-30-2008, 11:44 PM

Your right, they can't successfully get a mod chip to work on the PS3. Hence the lack of successful haxorz...

VAMP · 04-09-2008, 12:02 AM

I saw a video clip the other day of someone that had "hello world" running on his PS3, don't know if it was genuine or not though.

03-18-2008, 10:01 PM	#41 (permalink)
Kernel Kev Admin / The One Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 5,553	So you are saying that "Its impossible" and "It cant be done" are different? I must disagree to some extent on that one. And i see hacking the PS3 very doable indeed, as i said before, its been done with the 360 and im sure Microsoft done everything they could to prevent it, so i cant see Sony coming up with a bulletproof system if the biggest software company in the world cant do it. This is one of those "time will tell" debates, and i for one am interested in what the results will be. Kev __________________ ALBUMS: My Vehicles My computer Rockingham TUTORIAL - Upgrade - Downgrade - Pandora's Battery - TUTORIAL

03-24-2008, 07:02 PM	#42 (permalink)
Ryder PSP-Forum User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Naples, Florida - U.S Posts: 2,491	It's not software that is blocking it Kev, it's both hardware and software. Sony put some piece of hardware that block's any and all access to th graphics chip if it isn't signed by Sony... __________________ Ryder GTA IV - Pop-in much? "Is it possible to give a game an 11? If so, this would be the game that would merit that score." - IGN Review of Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of The Patriots

03-25-2008, 11:42 AM	#43 (permalink)
The Juggler Da Management Join Date: May 2005 Location: Vancouver BC (CANADA), Pompey (UK) Posts: 2,240	Speaking from a vantage point of experience I would say that nothing is impossible when it comes to any code... it can be VERY differcult but not impossible. Ryder.... any system that reads media and then decides if the data on the media is valid or not is software driven not hardware.... and software can be cracked... hardware as in physically checking the disk is something different... but even then this is software driven unless it is totally mechanical and know physical piracy comes into play. Nothing is impossible just sometimes one has to compromise on the solution Des __________________ 3.90 m33 1.50v2 kernel (what ever that means )

03-25-2008, 09:24 PM	#44 (permalink)
Ryder PSP-Forum User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Naples, Florida - U.S Posts: 2,491	Don't get me wrong, I know the PS3 will be hacked. But I'm just saying, Sony put a piece of hardware to block the RSX, even in Linux. __________________ Ryder GTA IV - Pop-in much? "Is it possible to give a game an 11? If so, this would be the game that would merit that score." - IGN Review of Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of The Patriots

03-26-2008, 10:17 PM	#45 (permalink)
Kernel Kev Admin / The One Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 5,553	So is it not possible to create a program that is "signed by Sony", i mean if all the keys and security in place was cracked then it would be quite simple to fool a computer to think its genuine. Look at the cracks on Vista / XP, it gets past microsofts vlidation techniques. As for Hardware controlling access of software... all hardware is controlled by software so it is at the end of the day controlling the blocking process. Unless of course this "hardware you talk of is some minute electronic guard dog that bites the ankles of any trespasser or postman. Unless you can explain exactly how this works then i will stick to my theory that the PS3 is just as hackable as the 360 or any other machine out there. Kev __________________ ALBUMS: My Vehicles My computer Rockingham TUTORIAL - Upgrade - Downgrade - Pandora's Battery - TUTORIAL

03-26-2008, 10:58 PM	#46 (permalink)
Ryder PSP-Forum User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Naples, Florida - U.S Posts: 2,491	IMO the PS3 is doing phenomenal compared to the 360 and Wii when we talk hacking. Will it be hacked later down the road? Hell yeah! But as for now, it proves better at keeping hackers out then what the 360 was capable of. __________________ Ryder GTA IV - Pop-in much? "Is it possible to give a game an 11? If so, this would be the game that would merit that score." - IGN Review of Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of The Patriots

03-30-2008, 09:43 PM	#47 (permalink)
Constantine PSP-Forum Demi-God Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: A PSPirate on the high-seas of treason Posts: 2,705	That's a silly statement. I'm not that smart on PS3 hacking and whatnot, but the Wii isn't soft-modded, it has to have a chip installed. The 360 has mod chips out aswell. Piracy isn't on the PS3 because a modchip isn't (right?) Constantine __________________

03-30-2008, 11:44 PM	#48 (permalink)
Ryder PSP-Forum User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Naples, Florida - U.S Posts: 2,491	Your right, they can't successfully get a mod chip to work on the PS3. Hence the lack of successful haxorz... __________________ Ryder GTA IV - Pop-in much? "Is it possible to give a game an 11? If so, this would be the game that would merit that score." - IGN Review of Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of The Patriots

04-09-2008, 12:02 AM	#49 (permalink)
VAMP PSP-Forum Demi-God Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: usoffna Posts: 2,706	I saw a video clip the other day of someone that had "hello world" running on his PS3, don't know if it was genuine or not though. __________________

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