Is stealing wireless wrong? - PSP-Forum.com

odhranus · 08-23-2007, 01:01 PM

An interesting read I find:

BBC NEWS | Magazine | Is stealing wireless wrong?

ThE_KiD · 08-23-2007, 01:11 PM

lol when I was In the UK for my summer holiday with Monkey B. There was a free wireless connection next to our house. We used it for free (it was there 2 years ago.) Then now... He made a key so we cant acsess it xD.

No it is not wrong. The person has a choice. To set a password or not. If the person doesnt set the pass, then it is his own fault for not setting a key.

Sorry if this is long...

Monkey Business · 08-23-2007, 01:28 PM

Lol good old times
Anyway i think its thier own fault for not setting a wep key etc so i don't think its wrong.

odhranus · 08-23-2007, 01:42 PM

I think it is wrong because it IS stealing, if someone doesn't lock their car does it mean it's OK to steal things from it?

Using someone's wireless slows down their connection and uses up their download limit if they have one.

Cabe · 08-23-2007, 03:36 PM

pah, if someone's stupid enough to have unencrypted wireless then they deserve to have people leeching off of it. I have a 128 bit hex encoded wep key

Put it this way, if your friend left his car running at night with the doors open, sitting in the middle of the street, and it got nicked. whose fault would the insurance company say it was?

odhranus · 08-23-2007, 03:38 PM

but some people aren't aware of security and don't know how to turn it on

Kernel Kev · 08-23-2007, 05:26 PM

So if you walk around without a bullet proof vest on and you get shot, is that your fault.

Well then, its stealing and i dont agree, i admit that i have looked into hacking Wep keys, but simply for my own knowledge. I have wireless so i wouldnt have any use for it.

But, yeah its wrong. Cabe, if you thought it was ok then you wouldnt have encryption on yours would you?

Kev

Cabe · 08-23-2007, 06:46 PM

I have encryption on mine because I don't want anyone leeching away my internets.

If someone manages to break my encryption and uses it then fair go to them.

Kernel Kev · 08-23-2007, 08:55 PM

Indeed, but face to face, you would still want to kick their a**

Kev

bamhm182 · 08-23-2007, 10:25 PM

I don't think using somebody else's internet is wrong. I'm with Cabe on this one. Good example with the car Cabe.

I have a key on mine, because I don't want anybody looking through my files. If someone's using someone else's internet to hack into their computer and break it/look through their files, I don't like that, but if someone's just getting on QJ or just browsing the net and what not, I see no harm in that.

I've looked how to crack a WEP key a couple times so that I can use internet at my mom's house, but it's been useless so far, the only place I can get internet is in the back seat of the car(uncomfortable as you can imagine)

So, here's my line.

Fine:
Mooching to Browse the internet, I would have no problem with that.

Not Fine:
Hacking to gain passwords, Credit Card Numbers, your files, etc. I would kick their a** if they did that to me.

08-23-2007, 01:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
odhranus PSP-Forum Demi-God Join Date: May 2006 Location: In a tent in a field in North Wales Posts: 3,178	Is stealing wireless wrong? An interesting read I find: BBC NEWS \| Magazine \| Is stealing wireless wrong? __________________ Currently in the pub.

08-23-2007, 01:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
ThE_KiD PSP-Forum Addict Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 203	lol when I was In the UK for my summer holiday with Monkey B. There was a free wireless connection next to our house. We used it for free (it was there 2 years ago.) Then now... He made a key so we cant acsess it xD. No it is not wrong. The person has a choice. To set a password or not. If the person doesnt set the pass, then it is his own fault for not setting a key. Sorry if this is long... __________________ You can't resist the impossiblE.

08-23-2007, 01:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
Monkey Business Moderation in HD Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 4,290	Lol good old times Anyway i think its thier own fault for not setting a wep key etc so i don't think its wrong. __________________

08-23-2007, 01:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
odhranus PSP-Forum Demi-God Join Date: May 2006 Location: In a tent in a field in North Wales Posts: 3,178	I think it is wrong because it IS stealing, if someone doesn't lock their car does it mean it's OK to steal things from it? Using someone's wireless slows down their connection and uses up their download limit if they have one. __________________ Currently in the pub.

08-23-2007, 03:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
Cabe Trust me, I'm a genius! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Glasgow, Scotland, UK Posts: 808	pah, if someone's stupid enough to have unencrypted wireless then they deserve to have people leeching off of it. I have a 128 bit hex encoded wep key Put it this way, if your friend left his car running at night with the doors open, sitting in the middle of the street, and it got nicked. whose fault would the insurance company say it was? __________________ I never seen nothin' like you before I can kick you higher than you can kick me I can kick you way up into a tree

08-23-2007, 03:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
odhranus PSP-Forum Demi-God Join Date: May 2006 Location: In a tent in a field in North Wales Posts: 3,178	but some people aren't aware of security and don't know how to turn it on __________________ Currently in the pub.

08-23-2007, 05:26 PM	#7 (permalink)
Kernel Kev Admin / The One Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 6,134	So if you walk around without a bullet proof vest on and you get shot, is that your fault. Well then, its stealing and i dont agree, i admit that i have looked into hacking Wep keys, but simply for my own knowledge. I have wireless so i wouldnt have any use for it. But, yeah its wrong. Cabe, if you thought it was ok then you wouldnt have encryption on yours would you? Kev __________________ Say thanks by leaving me +Rep

08-23-2007, 06:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
Cabe Trust me, I'm a genius! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Glasgow, Scotland, UK Posts: 808	I have encryption on mine because I don't want anyone leeching away my internets. If someone manages to break my encryption and uses it then fair go to them. __________________ I never seen nothin' like you before I can kick you higher than you can kick me I can kick you way up into a tree

08-23-2007, 08:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
Kernel Kev Admin / The One Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 6,134	Indeed, but face to face, you would still want to kick their a** Kev __________________ Say thanks by leaving me +Rep

08-23-2007, 10:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
bamhm182 The Moderationator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: United States, Colorado Posts: 4,937	I don't think using somebody else's internet is wrong. I'm with Cabe on this one. Good example with the car Cabe. I have a key on mine, because I don't want anybody looking through my files. If someone's using someone else's internet to hack into their computer and break it/look through their files, I don't like that, but if someone's just getting on QJ or just browsing the net and what not, I see no harm in that. I've looked how to crack a WEP key a couple times so that I can use internet at my mom's house, but it's been useless so far, the only place I can get internet is in the back seat of the car(uncomfortable as you can imagine) So, here's my line. Fine: Mooching to Browse the internet, I would have no problem with that. Not Fine: Hacking to gain passwords, Credit Card Numbers, your files, etc. I would kick their a** if they did that to me. __________________

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