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fsped69 · 07-12-2006, 05:45 PM

Dear Admin

Yesterday I posted a question. I wanted to know if anyone knew a good upload site that I could post a "pirated" movie. The next day I noticed that my post was "Edited for Content." I never read your TOS, I did what everyone does an clicked agree. I didn't actually POST anything other than a question.

My question to you is this. How can you say that pirated anything isn't allowed, yet you have a whole section on Homebrew games? Which in essence is pirated software. Sony doesn't want you to play homebrew games, and hackers are writing software to crack the PSP code.

It seems to me you are being very hypocritical about what is acceptable and what isn't. I hope you can shed some light on this. Thanks.

lightt · 07-12-2006, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by fsped69

I hope you can shed some light on this. Thanks.

u said lightt, yes im here

ihh gonna get banned. . . but he was so polite don' ban him please. . .

homebrew is not a piracy if it was, it wouldn' be allowed throughout the net, its just like, there are many applications in Windows that are not licensed by windows though are not illegal, u can create your own homebrew if u have the knowledge about it, n' still its not wrong. . .

its like u've got a broom; its for sweeping right? but if still u want to use it to beat someone, go ahead, what's wrong with that?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

its not piracy :wink:

Constantine · 07-12-2006, 06:09 PM

I read somewhere that homebrew is, technically, illegal. It is because when the game is first created, it is licensed to the company for a certain time period after which it is public. Gaming hasen't been around for very long, so this little 'grace period' has ended yet, making it illegal.

Constantine

The Juggler · 07-12-2006, 06:43 PM

You know... the rules are the rules so that is good enough..

It is good that you question them.. but bad that you didn't read them first.

I am sure not all homebrew applications are illegal... I am also sure that the use of , now out of copyright, roms is also not illegal... at the very most a grey area.... But the blatant act of pirating games and films is illegal and as such not permitted on this site.

These are the rules... you don't have to like them or agree with them just abide by them if you want to stay on this site... and to that end you are more than welcome even if your activities on the site do not reflect your active interest in pirate this and that off site.

Thank you for posting such a good question and delivered in a polite and rational manner.

Des

:roll:

2poor · 07-12-2006, 06:52 PM

A bit of a silly comparison, hosting a bootleg (be it a TS or a CAM) versus talented developers who actually create software.

I don't know how much you know about the MPAA's anti-piracy tactics, but do you realize that being caught with a single illegal copy of a movie is generally a $250,000 fine and additional items are $25,000 each? Now more than ever they're cracking down on people downloading/distributing such files as movies that say, just came out in theaters...sound familiar?

Homebrew does not = games (illegal or otherwise). Perhaps you're thinking about emulators (which are created by developers) and the ROMs they use. The emulators themselves are homebrew software; ROMs are universal and can be used across a wide variety of platforms, not just the PSP. Sure, many of them are illegal to download in theory; some say "well I own the game, etc" but that really doesn't hold any water in the grand scheme of all things legal. That being said, there are still games that are licensed for public distribution (Duke Nukem 3D PSP port comes to mind), so no they're not illegal.

I think you need to get a better understanding of what "homebrew" is; its not another word for illegal games, it generally refers to a variety of software that can be used on your PSP in completely legal ways and to do a variety of other things.

lightt · 07-13-2006, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 2poor

I don't know how much you know about the MPAA's anti-piracy tactics, but do you realize that being caught with a single illegal copy of a movie is generally a $250,000 fine and additional items are $25,000 each?

OMG. . . i never knew about it . . . hopefully i dont stay in the US, is it thousands BTW $250.000,00?

What a pity on me. . . so much i would have to pay and having not that much. . .

scottie1984 · 07-13-2006, 08:43 AM

I don't know if cracking the PSP code is illegal. Homebrew applications certainly aren't illegal. The ROM's that run on these homebrew emulators are illegal unless the user owns a licensed copy. The ROM's in general are that old decent programmers could replicate the game with infringing copyright.

2poor · 07-13-2006, 02:42 PM

Yes, I meant $250,000.00 for the first infraction and $25,000.00 for additional items. :shock:

07-12-2006, 05:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
fsped69 Hi! I'm new around here... Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2	Question to Admins Dear Admin Yesterday I posted a question. I wanted to know if anyone knew a good upload site that I could post a "pirated" movie. The next day I noticed that my post was "Edited for Content." I never read your TOS, I did what everyone does an clicked agree. I didn't actually POST anything other than a question. My question to you is this. How can you say that pirated anything isn't allowed, yet you have a whole section on Homebrew games? Which in essence is pirated software. Sony doesn't want you to play homebrew games, and hackers are writing software to crack the PSP code. It seems to me you are being very hypocritical about what is acceptable and what isn't. I hope you can shed some light on this. Thanks.

07-12-2006, 06:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
Constantine PSP-Forum Demi-God Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: A PSPirate on the high-seas of treason Posts: 2,705	I read somewhere that homebrew is, technically, illegal. It is because when the game is first created, it is licensed to the company for a certain time period after which it is public. Gaming hasen't been around for very long, so this little 'grace period' has ended yet, making it illegal. Constantine __________________

07-12-2006, 06:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
2poor PSP-Forum Addict Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA (Ann Arbor, Michigan) Posts: 265	A bit of a silly comparison, hosting a bootleg (be it a TS or a CAM) versus talented developers who actually create software. I don't know how much you know about the MPAA's anti-piracy tactics, but do you realize that being caught with a single illegal copy of a movie is generally a $250,000 fine and additional items are $25,000 each? Now more than ever they're cracking down on people downloading/distributing such files as movies that say, just came out in theaters...sound familiar? Homebrew does not = games (illegal or otherwise). Perhaps you're thinking about emulators (which are created by developers) and the ROMs they use. The emulators themselves are homebrew software; ROMs are universal and can be used across a wide variety of platforms, not just the PSP. Sure, many of them are illegal to download in theory; some say "well I own the game, etc" but that really doesn't hold any water in the grand scheme of all things legal. That being said, there are still games that are licensed for public distribution (Duke Nukem 3D PSP port comes to mind), so no they're not illegal. I think you need to get a better understanding of what "homebrew" is; its not another word for illegal games, it generally refers to a variety of software that can be used on your PSP in completely legal ways and to do a variety of other things. __________________ Never looking back...or too far in front of me; the present is a gift - and I just wanna BE. Life is fast - some choose to be quicker.

07-13-2006, 02:42 PM	#8 (permalink)
2poor PSP-Forum Addict Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA (Ann Arbor, Michigan) Posts: 265	Yes, I meant $250,000.00 for the first infraction and $25,000.00 for additional items. :shock: __________________ Never looking back...or too far in front of me; the present is a gift - and I just wanna BE. Life is fast - some choose to be quicker.

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07-12-2006, 06:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
The Juggler Da Management Join Date: May 2005 Location: Vancouver BC (CANADA), Pompey (UK) Posts: 2,282	You know... the rules are the rules so that is good enough.. It is good that you question them.. but bad that you didn't read them first. I am sure not all homebrew applications are illegal... I am also sure that the use of , now out of copyright, roms is also not illegal... at the very most a grey area.... But the blatant act of pirating games and films is illegal and as such not permitted on this site. These are the rules... you don't have to like them or agree with them just abide by them if you want to stay on this site... and to that end you are more than welcome even if your activities on the site do not reflect your active interest in pirate this and that off site. Thank you for posting such a good question and delivered in a polite and rational manner. Des :roll:

07-13-2006, 08:43 AM	#7 (permalink)
scottie1984 PSP-Forum Addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 409	I don't know if cracking the PSP code is illegal. Homebrew applications certainly aren't illegal. The ROM's that run on these homebrew emulators are illegal unless the user owns a licensed copy. The ROM's in general are that old decent programmers could replicate the game with infringing copyright.